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How Is God's Name Pronounced?

The truth is, nobody knows for sure how the name of God was originally pronounced. Why not? Well, the first language used in writing the Bible was Hebrew, and when the Hebrew language was written down, the writers wrote only consonants—not vowels. Hence, when the inspired writers wrote God's name, they naturally did the same thing and wrote only the consonants.

While ancient Hebrew was an everyday spoken language, this presented no problem. The pronunciation of the Name was familiar to the Israelites and when they saw it in writing they supplied the vowels without thinking (just as, for an English reader, the abbreviation "Ltd." represents "Limited" and "bldg." represents "building").

Two things happened to change this situation. First, a superstitious idea arose among the Jews that it was wrong to say the divine name out loud; so when they came to it in their Bible reading they uttered the Hebrew word 'Adho·nai' ("Sovereign Lord"). Further, as time went by, the ancient Hebrew language itself ceased to be spoken in everyday conversation, and in this way the original Hebrew pronunciation of God's name was eventually forgotten.

In order to ensure that the pronunciation of the Hebrew language as a whole would not be lost, Jewish scholars of the second half of the first millennium C.E. invented a system of points to represent the missing vowels, and they placed these around the consonants in the Hebrew Bible. Thus, both vowels and consonants were written down, and the pronunciation as it was at that time was preserved.

When it came to God's name, instead of putting the proper vowel signs around it, in most cases they put other vowel signs to remind the reader that he should say 'Adho·nai'. From this came the spelling Iehouah, and, eventually, Jehovah became the accepted pronunciation of the divine name in English. This retains the essential elements of God's name from the Hebrew original.

Source: The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever, 1984

The form Jehovah is of late medieval origin; it is a combination of the consonants of the Divine Name and the vowels attached to it by the Masoretes but belonging to an entirely different word. The sound of Y is represented by J and the sound of W by V, as in Latin. The word "Jehovah" does not accurately represent any form of the Name ever used in Hebrew.

Source: Revised Standard Version of the Holy Bible, pages 6-7

Yehoshua: "the LORD is salvation," Moses' successor, also the name of a number of Isr.
Original Word: יְהוֹשׁ֫וּעַ
Part of Speech: proper name, masculine; proper name, of a location; proper name
Transliteration: Yehoshua
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah)
Short Definition: Joshua

Source: Strong's Concordances

H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.

The reason for the "Yehoshua" pronunciation is due to the Hebrew vowel pointing added by the Masorite scribes. The vowel points are the little dots and dashes under and above certain Hebrew letters. Unlike English, Hebrew was written with mostly all consonants. It was up to the reader to supply the vowels in each word based on the context of the word.

The Masorites were concerned that Hebrew was becoming a lost language so they invented the vowel point system to preserve the sounds of the Hebrew language. However, in keeping with tradition they were not interested in letting everyone speak the pronunciation of the Heavenly Father's name. For this reason, they pointed the Heavenly Father's name to produce the sound "Yehovah".

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Frostwhite wrote:Mahilig po pala talaga mamilosopo ang mga katulad ninyo. Paano po tayo magkakaintidihan nyan kung ganyan kayo?

Tatanungin ko po kayo, kapatid:

Ang Kristiano ba, pangalan o hindi?

G. Frostwhite, marahil ay ito po ang patunay na may patinig sa orihinal na Hebreong pangalan ng ating Panginoong HesuKristo.

Yehoshua: "the LORD is salvation," Moses' successor, also the name of a number of Isr.
Original Word: יְהוֹשׁ֫וּעַ
Part of Speech: proper name, masculine; proper name, of a location; proper name
Transliteration: Yehoshua
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah)
Short Definition: Joshua

Source: Strong's Concordances

colpurteur wrote:hindi po siya pantanging pangalan o personal na pangalan, manapay pambalana o alyas, titulo sa ibang katawagan. Tama po ako?

Frostwhite wrote:

Tatanungin ko po kayo, kapatid:

Ang Kristiano ba, pangalan o hindi?

Ito po ay "pangngalan" pero hindi pangalan.
Kung mali po ako pakipaliwanag. Salamat.

Frostwhite wrote:

G. Frostwhite, marahil ay ito po ang patunay na may patinig sa orihinal na Hebreong pangalan ng ating Panginoong HesuKristo.

Yehoshua: "the LORD is salvation," Moses' successor, also the name of a number of Isr.
Original Word: יְהוֹשׁ֫וּעַ
Part of Speech: proper name, masculine; proper name, of a location; proper name
Transliteration: Yehoshua
Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-shoo'-ah)
Short Definition: Joshua

Source: Strong's Concordances

Alin pong patunay diyan? Sabi nyo may patinig sa pangalan ni Jesus sa hebrew di ba? Vowel points po ang nilagay hindi vowels mismo, katulad din naman ng ginawa sa pangalan ni Jehova.

Hindi. Yehoshuah ang pangalan ni Jesus sa wikang Hebreo, Iēsous sa wikang Griego. Pero may mga patinig yan. Eh ang YHWH? Wala! Kaya hindi maaaring isalin!

celso wrote:Tanggap mo ba Mr. Nagsusuri na ang YEHO diyan sa name ni Jesus ay ang maikling anyo ng name ng YEHOWAH o YEHOVAH? Meaning mayroon talagang vowels ang name na YHWH hindi ba at yan 2 sa name יֵשׁוּעַ ay titik e at o.

Frostwhite wrote:Tungkol po sa Christian maraming salamat sa pagsipi ng mga talata. May tanong lang po. Personal na pangalan po ba ito? pansinin din po ang pagkakagamit ng salitang Christian.

G3686
ὄνομα
onoma
on'-om-ah
From a presumed derivative of the base of G1097 (compare G3685); a “name” (literally or figuratively), (authority, character): - called, (+ sur-) name (-d).

Source: Dictionaries of Hebrew and Greek Words taken from Strong's Exhaustive Concordance by James Strong, S.T.D., LL.D., 1890.

G2280
Θαδδαῖος
Thaddaios
Thayer Definition:
Thaddaeus = “large hearted, courageous”
1) one of the twelve apostles. From a comparison with the catalogue of apostles in Luk_6:16, and Act_1:13, is seems that Judas, Lebbaeus and Thaddaeus were the same person, and the writer of the book of Jude.
Part of Speech: noun proper masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of uncertain origin

Source: Thayer's Greek Definition

H8034
שׁם
shêm
shame
A primitive word (perhaps rather from H7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare H8064); an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character: - + base, [in-] fame [-ous], name (-d), renown, report.

Source: Dictionaries of Hebrew and Greek Words taken from Strong's Exhaustive Concordance by James Strong, S.T.D., LL.D., 1890.

Frostwhite wrote:Kung ihahalintulad nyo ito sa pangalan ng Diyos mukhana mahihirapan kayo. Kasi ang Diyos 7000 times pinakilala ang pangalan nya.

celso wrote:Mr. Nagsusuri noon bang isinulat ni JUan ang ΙΗ mula sa ΙΗΣΟΥ= IEsous sa greek alphabeth tanggap mo na galing ito sa Bigkas ng YE ng Hebrew alphabet?

KUng ginamit ni Juan ang Ye at isinalin ito ng Ie sa pagsulat ng name ni Jesus meaning Ginamit ni Juan ang maikling anyo ng name GOD יְהֹוָה

OYΔΕΝΑ ΙΝΑ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΤΟΥ "ΙΗΣΟΥ" ΠΛΗΡΩΘΗ ΟΝ ΕΙ-"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rylands_Library_Papyrus_P52

G2424
Ἰησοῦς
Iēsous
ee-ay-sooce'
Of Hebrew origin [H3091]; Jesus (that is, Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites: - Jesus.

Source: Dictionaries of Hebrew and Greek Words taken from Strong's Exhaustive Concordance by James Strong, S.T.D., LL.D., 1890.

What does the Greek actually say?

The Greek word for Jesus is Iησοῦς. It is pronounced as "eeaysoos." When "eeaysoos" was transliterated into the English long ago it became Jesus, the term we use in English today.

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Let's now take a look at how the name Iesous, which is rendered in the English Bibles as Jesus (G2424) came about from the Hebrew Yeshua (H3442), the short form of Yehoshua (H3091):

When transliterating Yod-Shin-Vav-Ayin -- the Hebrew name Yeshua to Greek:

Yod - "ye"> transliterates by pairing iota-eta (Ih) which is vocalized as "yay" or "ee-ay" because Greek has no consonant y.

Shin - "sh"> transliterates as sigma (s) because there is no equivalent letter for the "sh" sound in Greek.

Vav - "u" > the final u sound transliterates as the dipthong omicron-upsilon (ou) vocalized as "oo" because upsilon alone would not create the correct voicing needed.

Ayin - "ah"> the rules that govern Greek grammar dictate that this letter not be vocalized, and is due to the fact that it is not allowable for masculine names to end with a vowel during the transliteration process from the Hebrew to Greek.

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KUng ginamit ni Juan ang Ye at isinalin ito ng Ie sa pagsulat ng name ni Jesus meaning Ginamit ni Juan ang maikling anyo ng name GOD יְהֹוָה

Frostwhite wrote:Ulitin ko lang po. Ang Jehovah ay kumakatawan sa sa apat na letrang YHWH.

Frostwhite wrote:Kaya din naman ng pangalan ni Jesus na walang patinig. Pero kung mali ako na may patinig ang pangalan ni Jesus e pakitaan nyo po kami ng patunay.

Para mapatunayan na tama kayo sa sinabi ninyo.

Yung pagkakabasa po ang may patinig, sapagkat papaano po babasahin ng mga Hebreo ang kanilang kasulatan kung walang patinig ang pagbigkas ng kanilang pananalita? Yung YHWH, ngayon, walang patinig sa pagkakabasa kaya hindi maaaring isalin. Ang YHWSA HMSYH na mga patinig ng Hebreong Pangalan ng ating Panginoong HesuKristo, hindi pa po nawawala ang tunay na pagkakabigkas na ito, bagaman wala itong patinig sa pagkakasulat. Kaya, kung babasahin ang YHWSA HMSYH, Yehoshuah Messiah, sapagkat hindi pa rin po nawala ang pagkakabigkas nito, salamat sa mga Masorites o Masoretes na nagdagdag ng mga vowel pointings. Ngunit, yung pagdagdag ng mga patinig ng mga Masorites sa pangalang YHWH o JHVH, naipaliwanag na po yan, kaya, mangyaring tingnan niyo lang po ang mga posts ko.